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26 January 2010

Who Will Win? (An Example of Horary Question Regarding the Elections Within the Conservative Party of the United Kingdom)

In October 2005 the elections within the Conservative Party of the United Kingdom were held to elect a new leader, since on October the 7th Michael Howard, the former head of the party, formally resigned. Four candidates aspired to be his successors: Kenneth Clark (65), David Davies (57), David Cameron (39) and Liam Fox (44).

The question asked by my long-term client from the Great Britain read: “Will Kenneth Clark pass into the second round of the elections or potentially even win and, if not, which one among the four candidates will be the new head of the Conservative Party?”. The question was received as an e-mail on October the 14th 2005 at 23:56h in Belgrade, Serbia.

My client lived in the same area as Kenneth Clark, so I automatically assigned him the first house of the chart, (the rationale being the client’s identification with the matter inquired about) with Leo on its cusp. The other three candidates belong to the 7th house of the chart, its cusp falling in Aquarius and I had to assign  the ruler of this sign and its triplicity rulers to the three remaining candidates. Since the oldest among them, Clark, was already signified by the Sun, I assigned Saturn to David Davies, the oldest of the remaining three; the first ruler of the airy triplicity in a nocturnal chart, Mercury, was assigned to David Cameron (the youngest of all) and the third ruler of the airy triplicity, Jupiter, signified Liam Fox.




My answer regarding Kenneth Clark was simple and straightforward, predicting he wouldn’t pass the first round of the elections and that the youngest among them, David Cameron would win, his significator Mercury occupying the best position and having a direct and good relationship with Mars, the ruler of the MC and the natural significator of the 10th house.

The Moon, the most important significator in a horary chart, is separating from Mercury in Scorpio in the 4th (the end of the matter inquired about) linking him with Mars, the planet he applies to next. Although retrograde, Mars, in my opinion, did receive the Moon’s light by being located in the sign of her exaltation and triplicity (Taurus).The significators of the other two candidates, Saturn and Jupiter, were both angular, but Saturn was essentially severely debilitated and Jupiter combust and almost peregrine. Moreover, neither of the two was directly linked neither to Mars nor to the Moon, the leading luminary of the nocturnal chart. The Moon in this chart also rules the part of glory posited at the end of Cancer, further emphasizing the importance of Mercury.

Obviously, the Moon in this chart plays a twofold role of being the primary horary significator of the outcome and the dispositor of the part of glory. Equally, the part of fortune is closely aspected by Mercury. As we can see, Mercury is characterized by fourfold emphasis – he is angular, not essentially debilitated, joined to the Moon and linked with Mars by being located in his domicile and triplicity and he aspects the part of fortune.

It was not hard for me to predict that the youngest of the candidates will win and become the new head of the Tories. Liam Fox was eliminated in the second round of the election, and in the final round on December the 6th 2005 Cameron competed against Davies, winning as much as 68% of votes. Mercury  has a clear advantage over Saturn in this case, although Saturn also applies to Mars by antiscia; but the Moon being the fastest heavenly body and the main significator, connected directly with both Mars and Mercury, easily brings victory to the candidate signified by Mercury. Early degrees ascending suggested the question had been asked prematurely, before the inception of the first out of three election rounds. The trine between Venus, lady of the 4th, and Saturn shows that Davies manages to enter the final round, but he ultimately fails because of Mercury’s stronger position and better qualifications (Cameron).

Author: Natasa Karalic Koprivica

18 January 2010

An Example of a Horary Event Analysis (A Horary Marriage Chart)

There are three kinds of horary charts: horary question charts, horary event charts and horary news charts. The rules are, to a certain degree, different for each of them. This is an example for a horary event chart constructed for a moment of formal contracting a marriage. It happened in London at 12 p.m. on February 27th 2004.

In this kind of event charts, the husband is presented by the sign of the ascendant and Sun, a general male significator, and the wife is presented by the sign of the descendant and Venus, a natural female significator. Moon is a main significator of the whole horoscope image and in its separation it additionally describes the man and in the application it describes the woman. The medium caeli shows the general picture of marriage. The opposite part of the medium caeli, the point of the northern meridian, shows the final result of things questions. It is marriage in this concrete case.




So, in this chart, the husband is presented by Moon, the lord of the sign on the ascendant, by Sun in Pisces and by the debilitate Mars in Taurus with which Moon made the last aspect. The significators of the wife are the debilitate Saturn in Cancer, the debilitate Venus in Aries and the debilitate Mercury in Pisces. At first sight, the numerous zodiacally badly placed planets show the bad destiny of this marriage. The state of husband’s significators symbolizes a culpable man (the peregrine Moon in XII mundane house of the chart in disposition of the debilitate and combust Mercury in Jupiter sign), inclined to some kind of dependence. In his case it was alcoholism. It is interesting that the debilitate Jupiter, the traditional significator of alcoholism, specifically shows this vice in the retrograde opposite connection with Sun in Pisces. The wife’s significators, the debilitate Saturn in the cardinal sign and the debilitate Venus in the cardinal sign as well, symbolize choleric nature, expressive impatience, insufficient tact, tolerance and the lack of empathy. Venus in Aries shows its negative face which often manifests through the lack of adaptation and the low level of tolerance in traditional astrology. Since the whole horoscope image is very bad, it was necessary to analyze several planetary cycles for a few years. Two degrees of the difference between Saturn and the ascendant rudely make the predictive border narrower on two to four units of time, probably the year since the luminar of this event Sun has a high mundane position. The first check was in 2006 through the cycles of secondary progressions, profections and transit synodical degrees of heliacal illuminations of the relevant planets. Since Saturn is on the first mundane angle of this horoscope, it was easy to see the degree of its synodical conjunction on 14 degrees of Lion that falls in almost exact square with Mars of the horary chart, the lord of the event hour. This conjunction between Saturn and Sun happened on August 7th 2006 (the new synodical cycle of Saturn started because of this conjunction). The conjunctive synodical cycle is significant because of the heliacal rising of the planet. It refers to its orientation when a planet becomes visible in the night sky immediately before the sunrise by which it gains great power. Since the horary Saturn is very bad, its starting potential becomes active by means of this cycle. In August 2006. Moon of the horary chart changed the zodiac sign in progression by which its initial position became active from XII malefic house. Since two cycles showed August 2006, it was also desirable to check the third predictive cycle which was reduced to annual, that is, monthly profections (it was my choice). Profections for the period from 27th July till 27th August 2006 equalized the horary ascendant and the horary VIII house referring to ends and terminations of different kinds. It wasn’t difficult to predict divorce just for this period as a consequence of expressive incompatibility of spouses, intolerance and egoism of one spouse and alcoholism of the other one. It happened just like that.

(This example is announced with the client’s permission)

Author: Natasa Karalic Koprivica

10 January 2010

Early Horary Astrology Rules for Love Questions and Contracting a Marriage

What differs the first katarche methods from the later horary methods, at first sight, is the lack of mundane derivations and mundane locations of a querent as well as his separation from the subject of a question (for more information about katarche you can read the article "Notion and history of Horary Astrology"). A chart always refers to a thing in a question, without the significance of houses and their derivations according to the nature of things. A moment when someone asks about his/her marriage or a moment when an astrologer hears a question about marriage or a moment of contracting a marriage, so to speak, is practically interpreted equally. According to Dorotheus of Sidon, a husband is estimated through the positions of Sun, an ascendant and a planet with which Moon made the last aspect. A wife is estimated through Venus, a descendant and the application of Moon in series. The states of marriage, the relationship between spouses, the public image are estimated through the state of the southern meridian cusp (mc) and its ruler. The dowry and the final result are estimated through the northern cusp and its ruler. A thing is always estimated according to elementary rules. For example, if Sun is weak and Venus is strong, according to a position or aspects with benefits, a wife does well in marriage. It is opposite, if Venus is jeopardized in some way. A combust Venus is a sign of an obedient and dependant wife whom a husband always puts in the shade. It is not good at all if Moon is in a very bad position. It is important where Moon is and in which house malefics, that jeopardize it, are. For example, if Moon is too jeopardized in V mundane house, misfortune in marriage comes because of children, or if a malefic jeopardizes Moon from II house, finances and livelihood subsistence appear as the main reason. As for the questions referring to children, the strong Mercury or Mercury in the application with the benefic can rectify the things. It is particularly bad if Moon is, in Cancer or Capricorn, in a bad aspect with a malefic and a bad house in a katarche chart. It is believed that marriage will not last long. Venus in the same signs, bad aspects and XII house is a significator of a wife’s unfaithfulness. She will be unfaithful too if Moon is on the first five and the last five degrees of Taurus in the katarche chart, while the middle of this sign gives very good and faithful wife (I say again that it could be the question, the news about marriage or the moment of contracting a marriage). It is very bad if Moon is in Cancer, seemingly opposite to logic, in consideration of the domicile position of this luminary, where you should remember that the rules developed in the patriarchal societies. Too strong position of a wife was not a good virtue, so it is believed that the position of Moon in Leo was a fortunate thing, because Moon in this sign is under the rule of Sun, a general significator of men. When some man marries, it is good for Moon to be in Virgo, if he marries a ripe woman which was married before and not a young, till then, unmarried woman. Moon in Libra is a position good for flirting and courting, but not for marriage stability. It is better to propose some girl then than to contract a marriage during that period. The position in Scorpio is generally bad because of the detrimental position of Moon. It is neutral in Sagittarius, very bad in Capricorn and Aquarius and average in Pisces.

There will not be happiness in marriage if Venus is damaged or it is strong with Moon at the same time, except that Jupiter overpowers them according to its mundane position. It is very good if Moon and Venus are in aspect with Jupiter, especially in a good aspect or in a conjunction. It is always desirable that a katarche chart should be compared with the natal charts of spouses.

As for katarche questions and events referring to quarrels and misfortunes in marriage, it is important to watch the primary Sun and Venus as well. If Sun is above horizon in a good house and Venus is retrograde or in the first station, it means that spouses will reconcile or a wife will return to her husband, or she will cool down depending on the context of situation. It is particularly good if Venus is occidental (it appears after Sun during the daily movement). If Venus is oriental nad fast (it moves more than fifty-nine arch minutes and eight arch seconds of longitude), and Sun is weak, then it means that a wife will insist on her domination. Similarly, if, during the quarrel and the temporary separation or the news about them, Venus is above horizon, oriental (it appears before Sun during the daily movement) or oriental in a flexible or double bodied sign (it is Aquarius as well) with the coexistent weak Sun under horizon, or Sun in a double bodied sign or in a cadent house, then the stable marriage and the return of a spouse will not happen. The opposition of the luminaries during the quarrel or the separation brings much pain and quarrels between spouses. If it is a separated opposition, there is a chance for reconciliation. But if it is applicable, there is less chance for reconciliation, particularly if malefics are pointed out in the chart in any way. The opposition is also qualified by the state of benefics that can solve some things in different way.

Author: Natasa Karalic Koprivica

07 January 2010

Time and Location Which are Relevant for Constructing Horary Chart

For experts of horary astrology, there is no dilemma of time and location for which a horary chart is constructed for a question - the time when an astrologer found out and understood the contents of some question and the location where he or she was at that moment. In recent years, with the increase of popularity of horary astrology there are some people who have been trying to study horary astrology spreading the idea that a question which “struck” a querent can be used as the relevant time, that is, when they talk about the location, they say that it is important where a querent was at that moment, but not an astrologer to whom a question was sent, as the horary astrology rules dictate. Some of them go the length of asserting that time was used in ancient times. That is, of course, completely incorrect. Before all of them, in the books and the announced examples of a great man of horary astrology William Lilly, it can obviously be seen that horary charts, without exception, were constructed for the time when an astrologer heard or read and understood a question as well as for the location where he or she was at that moment. There are at least two reasons for this kind of rule of horary astrology that has consistently been used for centuries during the studying and practicing  horary astrology. Firstly, there is a reason of a practical nature and secondly, there is a reason of a logical and philosophical nature. The idea, that ancient astrologers could use the time when a querent conceived a question, is absurd because a clock as a device did not exist till the 16th century and mechanism had  only one watch-hand (an hour-hand, without a minute-hand). The privilege of time calculation, that is, ascendant degree calculation exclusively belonged to mathematicians/ astrologers/ astronomers (that’s how people called experts of the celestial science in ancient times). In accordance with it, the idea, that the time which was relevant for constructing horary charts was the time when some question struck a querent, was actually absurd, because, as can be seen, something like that was impossible for an ordinary man. Beside this practical reason for adoption of the rule referring to the time and the location of an astrologer, there is one more logical -philosophical excuse. When we talk about questions in horary astrology, the so-called horary questions, we always talk about questions which are put to astrologers who have enough knowledge and experience to answer them using the horary astrology rules. In that sense, an ordinary question becomes a horary question and gets its own astrological sense when an astrologer, to whom some question is put, hears or reads and understands its contents. In horary astrology, that moment is called “the parturition of a horary question”, and we take the time and the location in which that moment happened, in accordance with that logic, as only relevant things for constructing a horary chart.




How did astrologers calculate the time, that is, the ascendants degree in ancient times, when there were no mechanisms? They used an astrolabe. It came from Greek meaning “an instrument for catching stars”. In accordance with this, any instrument used for observing  stellar positions or latitudes could be called like that. Till the 10th century in the western Europe this word was used for armillary spheres, systems of rings which represented planetary and stars moving. A real astrolabe represented the projection of cosmic sphere onto the flat surface and this kind of astrolabe should be called a planispheric astrolabe in order to differ from other instruments with the same name. This kind of astrolabe was the most important observing instrument before the invention of telescope and it used not only for observing and measuring celestial positions but also for determining time, geographic latitudes, altitudes, distances and mundane houses. It might have been  Ptolemaeus’ or Hipparchus’ invention. Of course, it was known to the ancient world. Apart from this kind of instrument, there were many other instruments which were used for calculating the time during the day such as a sun watches, solar instruments showing the time according to the position of solar shadow and clepsidra, water watches working like sand watches except that they had water instead of sand. Yet, Ptolemaeus insisted on an astrolabe as the most reliable instrument for calculating the exact time, that is, the first ascendant of Zodiac on east. In Tetrabiblos, the book III, item 2. entitled “Of the Degree of the Horoscopic Point” he said: ”It is often difficult to define the exact time of  birth (it is the first and the most important fact). Generally speaking, only observing by means of horoscope astrolabes at the time of birth can give a moment of the hour by means of scientific observing, while practically all other horoscope instruments, on which the majority of the more careful practitioners rely, can often make an error.”

Author: Natasa Karalic Koprivica